August 2, 2013

  • On Marrying the Family

    Before Won and I got married, whenever Korean girls found out my fiance was Korean they’d ALL ask me, “have you met his mother?” I didn’t think much of it because his mom is very nice to me. I should have been more wary -___-

    We had a fabulous wedding but afterwards we found out his parents were very upset because they felt they were disrespected at the wedding. I guess in Korean culture, at a wedding the VIP guests are the groom’s parents. And I’ve never been to a Korean wedding but apparently all the guests are supposed to come up to the groom’s parents at some point to greet them and make them feel very special. Which obviously did not happen at my 99% Vietnamese wedding.

    To give some background: we had 200 guests. Of the 200, less than 30 were Won’s guests. And of his 30 friends, I’d say 25 of them were Vietnamese and the rest were basically white. His family only consist of his parents and sister, no one else. My family took up 50 of the 200 seats. In Won’s family, everything revolves around his parents. When they come home from work, everyone greets them. They’re the first to eat and last to eat. They decide what and where we’re going as a family. Don’t get me wrong, they are loving parents who will sacrifice anything for their children but overall there is still an old sense of tradition in which the elders are the most important. In MY family, it’s the complete opposite. Children eat first and they eat the best part of the meal. The younger you are, the better dibs on shit you get. The adults cook and clean while us kids us lounge around. We make all the decisions and the parents just follow. The dynamics are very very different.

    So when it boiled down to a wedding day, I think his parents were expecting us/guests to really take care of them because they were the special guests. Whereas with my family, everyone did everything around how I felt. My mom stayed out of my way to reduce my stress and everyone basically slaved themselves away while I barked out orders (as nice as I could). Even though my family are near and dear and most important to me, because it was my wedding day they played host and had the most tiring day while my guests had a good time. That is just how it’s ALWAYS been in my family, because you are family you work the most. Won’s family philosophy is because you are family, you relax the most. 

    Between finding meaningful moments with our 200 guests and our team of about 30 vendors and making sure WE looked good, I didn’t pay much attention to his parents. We didn’t go out of our way too much to introduce them to anyone or make sure they felt important. On top of that, his family are the opposite of mine, very anti-social and prefer to be in a  quiet space whereas my family is loud and love to hug and drink and yell at each other while dancing. I kind of took it as, they preferred to not be bothered with all my young cousins and guests. So imagine my surprise when instead they said they felt disrespected that people weren’t talking or shmoozing with them. Then when I brought it up to my family, people either didn’t really know what they were talking about nor did they think it was a big deal because in my family, people aren’t as formal nor easily offended over social hierarchies. 

    Won compares it to my family being religious freaks (won unwillingly got baptised-_____-). True. We all have our obsessions and what not. But it ended up causing some tensions which leaked into tension between Won and I. And before we knew it, we fought EVERY SINGLE DAY over the dumbest shit, where as before, we NEVER fought. It didn’t help that Won went back to Seattle after the wedding and I’ve just been staying in California for the last month, both of us for work. And it’s such a sensitive subject too so we fought about everything BUT what we needed to be fighting about, our families. Finally, we both just went at it and we just felt better and finally we’re back as one team. I’m still sad that the two families are not in sync because that isn’t the in-law relationship I want. I don’t want to have to be two different person and have two separate parties for the rest of my life to please both sides. I’d rather everyone just get along and we can have one big party all the time. 

    I go home next week. As excited as I am to see Won again, I am nervous because his mom wants to give me “a talk” about the roles and expectations of a Korean daughter-in-law. Won doesn’t think it’s a big deal because it’s just a talk and I should just say yes and then do whatever I want. I am less than thrilled because… I’m not Korean nor do I have some secret wish to become Korean, and on top of that I come from a completely different upbringing so my philosophy on what a daughter-in-law is very different. I can’t throw away 25 years of who I am and suddenly agree with another family’s philosophy. Won thinks I’m making it into a bigger deal than it is because I keep asking him what exactly we’re talking about and he doesn’t know either.  I wished it wasn’t made into such a big deal in the first place and that one day she just talked to me, not that I have to sit down and prepare for a “talk.” So for the past month, this has been looming over my head, I’m glad to be coming back so we can just get it over with. -___-

    One of my brides (she’s Korean) told me… no matter how great and better someone’s family is over yours, you’ll never like them as much because it’s not YOUR family. You can come from a family of thugs and murderers and even if you marry into a family of angels and charity donors, you will still prefer your family because that is who you are. I laughed at the time but it’s true. 

    Personally, I am just going to have an attitude that no matter what either side expect or don’t like about me, I will continue to just be happy me. I will do what people want to make everyone else happy but not if it makes myself unhappy. It’s funny because when I think about this, I think about the relationship I want with my future daughter in laws and that is what I am going to try to emulate with my own family and his family. Surprisingly, I do not want a super close relationship with my future daughter in laws, I want them to make my son happy and are some what in touch with us but I imagine spending my old age with my old husband, alone, not with our adult kids. 

Comments (26)

  • Sounds like a big case of culture clash! Of course there was no way you could have known about Won’s parents expectations unless they made it known to you prior to the wedding. They can’t blame you for not being a mind reader. They needed to inform you or Won of what their expectations were.

    You grew up in a special, special family:

    “The younger you are, the better dibs on shit you get. The adults cook and clean while us kids us lounge around. We make all the decisions and the parents just follow.”

    That sounds more like having a ton of birthday wishes come true, especially the parents following the lead of the kids, haha.

    ” (won unwillingly got baptised-_____-)”

    You know that boy must love you something fierce to do that. =)

    That said, I wouldn’t worry about the “talk” his mom wants to have with you. It’s just part of bridging the gap between the two families. If Won can get baptised for you, just having to listen to what his mom has to say should be a piece of cake. =)

  • @SoullFire -  i agree with him.. oh boy im so scared cuz the guy im dating is also korean.. and he told me.. we’ve been dating for three years and he kept asking me if i wanted to meet his mom.. but he’s also hesitant cuz he’s scared shes going to try and sabotage our relationship or cause trouble cuz im vietnamese and NOT christian.. oh and she thinks im cambodian -_- She says viets and cambo.. “same thinggg”

  • I hate Korean moms. I’m putting off meeting my bf’s mom for as long as possible.

  • That’s interesting, my gf is vietnamese and we bow and greet every Aunt and uncle when we enter the house and before we leave. They also usually get to eat first while we eat at the kids table later onShe said the practice is very common for vietnamese families but i don’t know since i haven’t been to too many other vietnamese family dinners. Perhaps it is just whether your family is traditional vs not? Whatever it is their family is awesome. Super supportive, likes to hang out around and just chill, it is the exact opposite of what my family and I like that a lot.

  • @SoullFire -  It’s more of a clash between families than it is of cultures. Each family has a special dynamic, I’m sure being in the same culture would help me be more aware because I can understand the unspoken words but because I can hardly understand the few English words they DO speak, it makes it harder. That and I have a hard time figuring out when they want truly want to left alone or when they want to be pampered a bit.

    I know, my family is VERY unique. I think it’s because I have much older parents and on top of that they were immigrants who hardly speak English. So even from a young age we had to deal with all the official things, which kind of spurred us making most of the decisions and our parents just accepting it and going along, they didn’t understand the language here or how things work so they weren’t too picky. And our parents would loosen up on the strict culture if it meant we would be more successful and happy here in America. The ONLY thing they would not let up on is religion -___- We got into a HUGE fight once when we were on vacation in Vietnam and they insisted I got to church at 4AM. I screamed that they were crazy.

    @chinkdub -  Of course, we all greet people when we enter their home, that is respectful in ALL cultures. But we stopped bowing years ago, that is usually what little kids do, hardly do adults bow. We have a kids table and adult table too, but the kids table definitely gets the better part of the turkey and we all eat at the same time (if they can even corral the kids to come sit down). And even though we’re adults now, the parents still are the one serving up the kids table to make sure we have enough of everything.

  • @urbanspringlove -  Lol.. that is not a good sign. My in laws are really nice but there are things I’ll cook that are Vietnamese and they’ll think it’s gross to look at and laugh at it, which I think is super rude and hurtful. I just owe it up to that fact that sometime people just don’t know what they don’t know and you can’t hold it against them. Just hope that people have an open mind, at least on the important stuff.

    Bring some presents the first time you meet them. And really, HE has gotta get more confidence about it and step it up. Whatever is lost is translation between you and her has to be made up by him. You know how they judge you is going to be dependent on how he leads the interaction. And he knows his parents best! I met my in laws on our third date. Scary! But he knew that they were curious people and in his case, it was better that I was introduced early on rather than later.

  • @Un_filtered -  LOL… Girrrrrrrrrrrrl, your attitude is funny. Go into with a positive mindset and hopefully you’ll be pleasantly surprised! :)

  • i totally understand but tradition is always tradition. I think your husband should have told you this or you had to ask him since both of you are totally different religion. is like my friend was ask for dinner to her bf house and she almost mess up her first impression with the parents. im chinese and i guess it would be a similar way of thinking in a wedding. Good luck with the in-laws.

  • @DarkJsurfer -  On a regular day basis we’re pretty good about giving each other heads up. But a wedding is REALLy chaotic and there is a million things going on at once and as the bridegroom you have to try to keep on top of it all. Neither of us really paid much attention to anyone in particular. So yes, we can go back to do things differently, but on that day, we did what we could. Plus, I don’t think he really knew the Korean tradition either because we all thought everything was fine and dandy. It wasn’t until after that we found out.

  • ic, is ok im not blaming anybody just saying that since u married him, you would have to know more of his culture, since his parents are very traditional

  • @youngvan – That would be a first. White parents, 8-year-old half Filipino son. Recipe for Korean mom haterade.

  • @Un_filtered -  Haha okay I don’t know how to help you. Good luck! :)

  • I had a similar run in with my fiancee’s mother who stayed with me for 2 whole months while he was deployed to “help” me with our new baby – not helpful and we fought a lot. She is Filipino and I am Korean but I was adopted by white people, so I’m really American. He said the same – just ignore and do whatever, but it’s not that easy for a woman! Men get away with everything!

    You are a strong smart beautiful woman. Hold your ground, I know you will, and just be open to what MIL has to say. But it’s your marriage, not theirs. You are not Korean and they have to accept that.

  • And Koreans are just very haughty. Try to take it with a grain of salt love!

  • Remind ur hubby, listen bubb/won we are our own two family now. And play the song “army of two” after :D

  • umm yeah your friends should have been a warning lol
    this is called “shi world” shi menas mother in law… a world of korean mother in law drama. prepare yourself. theres psychological/mental repercussions lol good luck

  • Be ready though – Korean mom’s can be bitchy and expect “service” from a daughter in law.

  • thank you for sharing. now i sort have an idea of what to expect after the wedding. anymore tips?

  • @christin0 -  OMG! OMG! THanks for sharing. Aside from that particular post (which is scary and sad), the rest of the website is HILARIOUS!! I keep literally LOLing while reading it and my husband is all..wtf are you reading? Then I tell him the stories and he’s laughing too.

  • @ms_coco -  Always bring a present! Haha Be fertile? Hahahah I don’t know any at the moment. I’ll keep writing and keep you posted! I came home last night and was greeted with long hugs and kisses so that’s a good sign! :D

  • lol no problem! Yeah it’s hilariousssss i still laugh whenver i go back to read it. It really is free therapy.

  • and also, that generation has a lot of psycho/emotional problems… it’s really not you. Hope you don’t let them ever get to you and keep being a light in their lives :D hang in there!

  • aweeee…. Good luck, hun! Havent been here for a while. Despite all the things arisen, congrats on your marriage!

  • i’m korean & i have never heard of this. my parents are super korean but we were raised in an american environment. so i guess i’ll consider myself lucky :)

    • You are! And I think it’s different when it’s YOUR own parents and your in-laws. When my mom is overbearing I can yell at her to stop it. I can’t exactly do that to my MIL.

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